‘If you don’t take him seriously he’s fun to watch.’ This is said of Buddy’s agent’s shiny brown lowrider dachshund named Swifty in A Coyote’s in the House. This is said of someone else in one of the other books. I think it’s Robbie Daniels in Split Images but it could be one of the rich crowd in Stick.

Michael Keaton plays Ray Nicolette in both Jackie Brown & Out of Sight.(He must’ve got a transfer.)

djones - 06 March 2007 02:00 PM

‘If you don’t take him seriously he’s fun to watch.’ This is said of Buddy’s agent’s shiny brown lowrider dachshund named Swifty in A Coyote’s in the House. This is said of someone else in one of the other books. I think it’s Robbie Daniels in Split Images but it could be one of the rich crowd in Stick.

In Glitz also…Jackie’s bodyguard is telling Vincent Mora (after he beat Vincent up a bit) how Jackie is fun to watch..

I think it would be almost unbearably difficult for Elmore to write something at this stage of his career and NOT have any touchstones in it.

Should we start talking about ‘Honey’ or wait till after the reviews are in?  (No spoilers please.)

I’ve been consciously avoiding this place lately while I read the book.  Couldn’t hold back any longer and poked my head in today.  As usual there are a number of interesting discussions going on, and other than giving props to my boy David Lynch, I feel woefully inadequate to comment on any of ‘em.

I’ll be reading ‘Comfort’ after whatever happens in Honey’s room has happened.  Too late to get the order right.

UP IN HONEY’S ROOM
CITY PRIMEVAL and (SWAG)

There is a great part in UP IN HONEY’S ROOM that pits Carl in one car against the bad guy in another.  It is like a duel between two cowboys in the Arizona desert, but we are in Detroit.

It takes place on the Seven Mile Road.  A golf course and police station are near.

Another “duel” took place at the same location in Chapter One of CITY PRIMEVAL between Judge Alvin Guy and Clement Mansell.

I mention SWAG because of a the bar and drinking factor.  In SWAG, Stick steals the car from Red’s and you find him in a bar right after it happens.  In HONEY"S ROOM, the bad guy gets in a “duel” and he is in a bar right after it happens.  How many of Mr. Leonards books have settings in bars?  The question should be, how many don’t.

Greta in Freaky Deaky: ‘I read for a part, it was a scene in a bar where I’ve just met this cop and I try to guess what he does for a living.’  She must be trying to get a part in City Primeval.

UP IN HONEY’S ROOM

Otto Penzler is the name of one of the escaped German POWs.  In HONEY’S ROOM he talks about changing a bookstore’s inventory.  He wants to make it into a bookstore specializing in mystery.

Wikipedia:  The real Otto Penzler (born July 8, 1942) is a well-known publisher and editor of mystery fiction in the United States and proprietor of The Mysterious Bookshop in New York City, where he lives. It is one of the oldest mystery specialist bookstores in America.

He edited a collection called DANGEROUS WOMEN which had the Elmore Leonard story “Louly and Pretty Boy”—another Carl Webster story.

Franks in general, franks and beans, franks for the memories, frankly my dear
Frank Rellis, Bounty Hunters
Frank Renda, Escape From Five Shadows
Frank Braden, Hombre
Frank Pizzaro, Big Bounce
Jack Ryan’s asshole brother-in-law Frank, Big Bounce
Frank Long, The Moonshine War
Frank Tanner, Valdez is Coming
Frank Shelby, Forty Lashes less one
Frank Renda, Mr. Majestyk
Frank Ryan, Swag
There was a Frank in Law at Randado, Kirby’s partner
they split up when Danaher and Lt. Davis break up the posse
happy to be rid of him too
Stay tuned boys and girls

I read my first EL back in early 80s (swag) and noticed these “touchstones” a few years later. I started to “map” them on a couple of A4 sheets cellotaped together about ten years ago, which was lost during a house move i think. 
If it ever turns up ill post any that are missing from this thread.

COMFORT TO THE ENEMY to THE HUNTED

I can’t believe we didn’t catch this earlier.

In COMFORT, Teddy Ritz is staying at a hotel under the alias of David E. Davis.  Teddy states that Mr. Davis cooked some of the best whiskey in Missourah.

One of the main characters in THE HUNTED is Gunnery Sergeant David E. Davis from Harlan County, Kentucky.  His father must have moved to Harlan County to make moonshine.

Dixie Davies is a real life Detroit homicide detective in Impressions of Murder, there is even a photo of him. 

Dixie Davies is a Captain in the Atlantic City PD’s Major Crime Squad in Glitz.  The description matches the photo in the Detroit News.

I met the real Dixie many times.  He is in the 1991 BBC documentary, Elmore Leonard’s Criminal Records.  He went into real estate and had a woman partner.  It always impressed me that his demeanor was exactly the same as when he was a Homicide dick.

THE HOT KID
GOLD COST, RIDING THE RAP, PRONTO, “Fire In The Hole”, and others

Lester Crowe is a US Marshall in THE HOT KID.  He was originally from Lake Okeechhobee, Florida.  Most Crowes are idiots and criminals.  The Crowes have shown up in more Elmore Leonard books than any other characters.

I found this on Google searching for some Elmore Leonard items.

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Series characters:

Phil Sundeen [the bad cattle baron] [westerns]
The Law at Randado (1954)
Gunsights (1979)

Jack Ryan [thief]
The Big Bounce (1969)
Unknown Man No. 89 (1977)

Stick [Ernest Stickley] [car thief]
Swag (1976), aka: Ryan’s Rules. [NB!: 2nd main character -Frank Ryan]
Stick (1983)

Ordell Robbie & Louis Gara [black & white sidekicks-thieves from Detroit, gun dealer & bank robber]
The Switch (1978)
Rum Punch (1992)

Ray Nicolet [special agent of police]
Rum Punch (1992) [cameo]
Out of Sight (1996) [cameo]

Raymond Cruz [cop, Homicide Detective from Detroit]
City Primieval (1980)
Out of Sight (1996) [RC introduced off-stage]

Gary Hammond [cop from Palm Beach]
Split Images (1981)
Maximum Bob (1991)

Chili Palmer [Ernesto Palmer] [a Miami loan-shark (mobster) in Hollywood business]
Get Shorty (1990)
Be Cool (1999)

Harry Arno [bookie from Miami]
Pronto (1993)
Riding the Rap (1995)

Raylan Givens [U.S. Marshal]
Pronto (1993)
Riding the Rap (1995)
Fire in the Hole (2001) [short story]

Karen Sisco [U.S. Deputy Marshal]
Out of Sight (1996)
Karen Makes Out (1996) [short story]

Dennis Lenahan [high diver]
Chickasaw Charlie Hoke (2001) [short story] [DL introduced off-stage]
Tishomingo Blues (2002)

Carl Webster [Carlos Huntington Webster] [U.S. Marshal, one of the elite manhunters]
1. The Hot Kid (2005)
2. Comfort to the Enemy. (September — December 2005, magazine publication)
3. Up in Honey’s Room (It was published on May 8, 2007)
+ Tenkiller (2002) [novella] [introduced a CW’s grandson - Ben Webster]
+ Cuba Libre (1998)  (Virgil Webster, CW’s father)

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