you gotta be kiddin right

LACrimAtty - Armand Degas and Franklin de Dios; same character, different names.

Son Slater -you gotta be kiddin right

Could be argued many of Mr. L’s creations are similar enough to sameness. Many of the women not takin’ shit from anyone. Protagonists flawed, many criminals, some more than others.

Even the plots, tropes twisting things back and around, good guys always surviving, somehow, if not getting exactly what they want.

Yeah, Mr. L has his formula, for the most part, something he followed, refined, when he took to crime writing. The same, yet not the same.

What makes Pagan Babies and The Hunted my favorites (Tishomingo Blues right up there, too): Davis gets what he wants, in a way, the money. But he’s unable to save Rosen. Dunn gets nothing, though, winds up back in the jungle, we’re not sure he’s too happy about it, too. But look at his noble act at the beginning, what he would have been if his scheme with Dewey had worked, Dewey connected to the mob always, whether her comic career burns or dies.

And then you have the Webster books. How about Cuba Libre?

Same character, different names? Same tropes?

No, man, not really.

ya gotta be kiddin
do yourself a favour
read it again
davis is greatest
evil creation
deb dewey doll
not moll
vivre
livre

Saw the movie Pineapple Express last night and it has the line, “They messed with the wrong melon farmer.”

In both RIDING THE RAP and GLITZ a woman is thrown from a building.

In BE COOL, I think Elliot Wilhelm held a guy by the ankles from a balcony at the Four Seasons, but pulled him back in, didn’t drop him.

LA Crim,

I believe there was a window toss in Gold Coast as well. Also-in Unknown Man #89, Jay Walt was held out window by Raymond Gidre before being pulled back in. Seems to be a popular theme for Elmore.

In BANDITS, Jack Delaney refers to Uncle Brother.

In TENKILLER, we have Brother, the youngest of the Grooms morons.

stick ends
off a balcony
la brava begins
image of a man falling

Straw - 09 June 2010 01:24 PM

LA Crim,

I believe there was a window toss in Gold Coast as well. Also-in Unknown Man #89, Jay Walt was held out window by Raymond Gidre before being pulled back in. Seems to be a popular theme for Elmore.

Didn’t somebody go off the balcony in Stick?  Or was that just the film?

Don’t believe anyone went off balcony in Stick (book). There was a lot of walking around on balcony (Stick is walking around on balcony and sticks his head into a room and Chucky Buck asks him if he sees anything he likes and Stick says, “No”

stick ends chucky off the balcony
labrava begins maurice tells
photo lady of body falling
from highway
jackie brown & max cherry
sitting on her balcony
she tells him of her
three husbands
each fallling
from great
height
august murry
falls from
balcony
touch

To the Old Gang:

Let’s get the Touchstones going again for the Newbies.

A touchstone is “a standard or criterion by which something is judged or recognized.”  In The Dutch Forum, the term means a connection that exists in Elmore’s work across the boundaries of a single work.  A touchstone may be a character, a place, a line of dialogue; basically the evolution of the writer’s thought process.

“you know it”

To the Old Gang:

Let’s get the Touchstones going again for the Newbies.

A touchstone is “a standard or criterion by which something is judged or recognized.”  In The Dutch Forum, the term means a connection that exists in Elmore’s work across the boundaries of a single work.  A touchstone may be a character, a place, a line of dialogue; basically the evolution of the writer’s thought process.

don’t you know it